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utsfl:classroom:seminars:pbp411h [2019/06/29 20:01] – Added key WNAL link balleyneutsfl:classroom:seminars:pbp411h [2024/03/20 15:55] (current) – Updated link to Direction Matters white paper with Wayback Machine link balleyne
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 In Canada, every major pro-life organization supports incrementalism((http://www.theinterim.com/features/survey-of-pro-life-groups-on-gestational-limits-and-incrementalism/)). However, several organizations vociferously oppose gestational limits as an incremental measure. In Canada, every major pro-life organization supports incrementalism((http://www.theinterim.com/features/survey-of-pro-life-groups-on-gestational-limits-and-incrementalism/)). However, several organizations vociferously oppose gestational limits as an incremental measure.
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 Guidance comes from Catholic moral theology, namely, Evangelium Vitae 73.2: Guidance comes from Catholic moral theology, namely, Evangelium Vitae 73.2:
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-What are the problems with this view in opposition to gestational limits? WNAL Direction Matters((https://weneedalaw.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/11/Postition-Paper-on-Gestational-Laws.pdf))+What are the problems with this view in opposition to gestational limits? WNAL Direction Matters((https://web.archive.org/web/20210304155216/https://weneedalaw.ca/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2016/11/Postition-Paper-on-Gestational-Laws.pdf))
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   * Is there an issue of scandal? Would supporting gestational limits send a message to the public that the pro-life movement is okay with abortion before the limit?   * Is there an issue of scandal? Would supporting gestational limits send a message to the public that the pro-life movement is okay with abortion before the limit?
     * Mark Penninga responds to Marie-Claire Bissonnette who raises this point: https://arpacanada.ca/news/2019/03/05/even-in-a-world-with-chemical-abortion-canada-still-needs-an-abortion-law/     * Mark Penninga responds to Marie-Claire Bissonnette who raises this point: https://arpacanada.ca/news/2019/03/05/even-in-a-world-with-chemical-abortion-canada-still-needs-an-abortion-law/
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 +> Let’s assume for a moment that the author’s arguments are correct, and no support should be given for anything other than a full ban on abortion. Let’s follow this logic for a moment. If a bill that banned abortions after 10 weeks, 6 weeks, or even 2 weeks was introduced, they would have to oppose those as well.  And if our society were to become so disturbed by the gruesome reality of surgical abortion that it was prepared to ban the practice altogether, these same people wouldn’t be able to support that either because chemical abortions would still be legal. As Marie-Claire boldly asserts, any law banning only some abortions would strengthen “the legal status quo by bestowing upon it a perceived but false level of modesty and reasonableness.”
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 +> But in reality, such a law would drastically change the status quo, saving many lives, and so be well worth supporting!
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 +> With her logic, what kind of abortion law could she, and those who agree with her, support? Marie-Claire gives two examples of strategies she says we should all be able to support: defunding abortion and protecting conscience rights of health care providers. But, as worthy as these goals may be, they don’t actually address the practice of abortion itself. They aren’t abortion laws.