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utsfl:classroom:seminars:pba410h [2020/06/24 13:38] mmccannutsfl:classroom:seminars:pba410h [2024/01/19 21:56] (current) mmccann
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   * FIXME SPL http://blog.secularprolife.org/2014/06/the-imago-dei-or-why-should-secularists.html   * FIXME SPL http://blog.secularprolife.org/2014/06/the-imago-dei-or-why-should-secularists.html
   * [[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GS62pqGg8R1XxIUCpUMeI4whG4ssmy6t/view?usp=sharing|Powerpoint]] from James Schadenberg   * [[https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GS62pqGg8R1XxIUCpUMeI4whG4ssmy6t/view?usp=sharing|Powerpoint]] from James Schadenberg
 +  * FIXME Wrongful Killings 
 +(A) fetus?
 +(B) infant
 +(C) suicidal teen
 +(D) temporarily comatose adult
 +(E) other living human adults (e.g. majority of people around us)
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 +In (B)-(E), killing is clearly wrong; (A) is in dispute. What's the explanation for (B)-(E)? Does it cover (A) as well?
  
  
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   * It is wrong to kill children and infants, for they have a future like ours   * It is wrong to kill children and infants, for they have a future like ours
   * Euthanasia is permissible in cases where one’s future is not comprised of valuable experiences, activities, projects, and enjoyments    * Euthanasia is permissible in cases where one’s future is not comprised of valuable experiences, activities, projects, and enjoyments 
-  * **Abortion is prima facie wrong** +  * **Abortion is prima facie wrong** {{ :utsfl:classroom:seminars:flo.png?400|}}
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     * Because a fetus has a future that is identical to an adult humans’, it follows that it is wrong to kill a fetus, and so abortion is wrong.     * Because a fetus has a future that is identical to an adult humans’, it follows that it is wrong to kill a fetus, and so abortion is wrong.
     * This does not claim that fetuses are persons. It merely claims that fetuses have valuable futures     * This does not claim that fetuses are persons. It merely claims that fetuses have valuable futures
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 //Katie//: Yes, what Matthew said! When I’m arguing the difference between wrongness of killing born vs preborn, I point out that it’s not the fact that someone had a past and past life experiences that makes killing wrong - it’s that you’re depriving them of all future experiences. It hurts the families of the born more, yes, but as far as why we shouldn’t kill, it’s because we are robbing someone’s future, and that is true of born and preborn alike. //Katie//: Yes, what Matthew said! When I’m arguing the difference between wrongness of killing born vs preborn, I point out that it’s not the fact that someone had a past and past life experiences that makes killing wrong - it’s that you’re depriving them of all future experiences. It hurts the families of the born more, yes, but as far as why we shouldn’t kill, it’s because we are robbing someone’s future, and that is true of born and preborn alike.
  
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 +FIXME similar argument made by A. Pruss https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=R9dGgHqEt2M&t=70s
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 +FIXME decent video/animation overview of argument https://youtu.be/UHYWu6UWEe0?si=h46B9-eLoDgPfHdD