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utsfl:classroom:seminars:pba410h [2020/06/23 14:06] – [Problems with the prochoice side (According to Marquis)] mmccann | utsfl:classroom:seminars:pba410h [2024/01/19 21:56] (current) – mmccann | ||
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* FIXME Christopher Kaczor, Ethics of Abortion, A Flourishing Like Ours section | * FIXME Christopher Kaczor, Ethics of Abortion, A Flourishing Like Ours section | ||
* FIXME citation for pro-choice philosophers considering this to be the strongest pro-life argument | * FIXME citation for pro-choice philosophers considering this to be the strongest pro-life argument | ||
* FIXME SPL http:// | * FIXME SPL http:// | ||
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+ | (A) fetus? | ||
+ | (B) infant | ||
+ | (C) suicidal teen | ||
+ | (D) temporarily comatose adult | ||
+ | (E) other living human adults (e.g. majority of people around us) | ||
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+ | In (B)-(E), killing is clearly wrong; (A) is in dispute. What's the explanation for (B)-(E)? Does it cover (A) as well? | ||
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+ | **Don Marquis** (born 1935) is an American philosopher whose main academic interests are in ethics and medical ethics. Marquis is currently Emeritus Professor of Philosophy at the University of Kansas... | ||
+ | Marquis is best known for his paper "Why Abortion Is Immoral", | ||
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===== Goals and Assumptions ===== | ===== Goals and Assumptions ===== | ||
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* Principle is ambiguous | * Principle is ambiguous | ||
* Why should // | * Why should // | ||
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==== Problems with prolife side (according to Marquis) ==== | ==== Problems with prolife side (according to Marquis) ==== | ||
* Principle embraces too much | * Principle embraces too much | ||
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* You can say instead “it is wrong to take a human being’s life” but Marquis doesn’t think it is obvious that fetuses are human beings | * You can say instead “it is wrong to take a human being’s life” but Marquis doesn’t think it is obvious that fetuses are human beings | ||
* Principle is ambiguous | * Principle is ambiguous | ||
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- | * If ‘human being’ is moral term, it is assuming the premise | + | |
===== What makes killing wrong? ==== | ===== What makes killing wrong? ==== | ||
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* “The loss of one's life is one of the greatest losses one can suffer. **The loss of one's life deprives one of all the experiences, | * “The loss of one's life is one of the greatest losses one can suffer. **The loss of one's life deprives one of all the experiences, | ||
* It is not simply the loss of your life, but the loss of your entire **future and all values it would contain,** even if you do not value it currently | * It is not simply the loss of your life, but the loss of your entire **future and all values it would contain,** even if you do not value it currently | ||
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=== Support for Marquis’ claim that it is wrong to kill someone if they will have a ‘future like ours’ === | === Support for Marquis’ claim that it is wrong to kill someone if they will have a ‘future like ours’ === | ||
* The primary wrong-making aspect of killing is the loss of the victims future because: | * The primary wrong-making aspect of killing is the loss of the victims future because: | ||
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* It is wrong to kill children and infants, for they have a future like ours | * It is wrong to kill children and infants, for they have a future like ours | ||
* Euthanasia is permissible in cases where one’s future is not comprised of valuable experiences, | * Euthanasia is permissible in cases where one’s future is not comprised of valuable experiences, | ||
- | * **Abortion is prima facie wrong** | + | * **Abortion is prima facie wrong** {{ : |
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* Because a fetus has a future that is identical to an adult humans’, it follows that it is wrong to kill a fetus, and so abortion is wrong. | * Because a fetus has a future that is identical to an adult humans’, it follows that it is wrong to kill a fetus, and so abortion is wrong. | ||
* This does not claim that fetuses are persons. It merely claims that fetuses have valuable futures | * This does not claim that fetuses are persons. It merely claims that fetuses have valuable futures | ||
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//Katie//: Yes, what Matthew said! When I’m arguing the difference between wrongness of killing born vs preborn, I point out that it’s not the fact that someone had a past and past life experiences that makes killing wrong - it’s that you’re depriving them of all future experiences. It hurts the families of the born more, yes, but as far as why we shouldn’t kill, it’s because we are robbing someone’s future, and that is true of born and preborn alike. | //Katie//: Yes, what Matthew said! When I’m arguing the difference between wrongness of killing born vs preborn, I point out that it’s not the fact that someone had a past and past life experiences that makes killing wrong - it’s that you’re depriving them of all future experiences. It hurts the families of the born more, yes, but as far as why we shouldn’t kill, it’s because we are robbing someone’s future, and that is true of born and preborn alike. | ||
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+ | FIXME similar argument made by A. Pruss https:// | ||
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+ | FIXME decent video/ | ||